It’s Time To Learn Who REALLY Is In Charge At #BlockDAG, Because It's Not Antony Turner [COLORFUL LANGUAGE]

It’s Time To Learn Who REALLY Is In Charge At #BlockDAG, Because It's Not Antony Turner [COLORFUL LANGUAGE]
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It’s Time To Learn Who REALLY Is In Charge At #BlockDAG, Because It's Not Antony Turner [COLORFUL LANGUAGE]

Sep 03 2025 | 00:31:40

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Episode September 03, 2025 00:31:40

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It’s Time To Learn Who REALLY Is In Charge At #BlockDAG, Because It's Not Antony Turner

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Chapters

  • (00:00:01) - Crypto Talk Radio
  • (00:01:38) - Crypto: Ethereum, Bitcoin In a Muddle
  • (00:02:47) - Trump Tokens: Buyback and Burn
  • (00:05:29) - Russ' Pre-Sale Comment
  • (00:10:55) - Leister exposes Vanderburg for calling Anthony Turner a Scammer
  • (00:13:42) - BlockDag Named Top 100 Blockchain and Web 3 Companies of 2025
  • (00:17:28) - DHL: We're Not Amazon Prime
  • (00:20:17) - Vos Coin: We Should've Said We're Testing a Supp
  • (00:24:16) - Elon Musk on Holding the 600 Million: "
  • (00:29:06) - Dr. Hurley: You're a Scammer
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Episode Transcript

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to Crypto Talk Radio, the podcast for everyday investors like you. Visit us on the [email protected] and now here's your host, Leister. Thank you for that, Bailey. And welcome everybody out there in Crypto Talk radio [email protected] I'm itchy as all get out, so you'll have to forgive me if you hear like shuffling noises. It's because I'm crazy itchy because I was planting trees and I just had to brute force it. I had to, I had to throw it back. I had to throw it way back. Like I, I have not had to do what I had to do since I was young, but I had to throw it back because one of those trees, it was just in a suboptimal location, heavy as all get out. I just had to muscle it. I wet the bad boy down. Just hose her down, boy. Hose her down. Wet her down. Which of course adds weight. But I, I knew what I was doing. Hosed her down. Okay, laid him on his side, rolled and circled him around to the hole like a big C shape, basically, to get to the hole and then tilting him back up. And meanwhile I'm all up in the branches, wet and all get out. And so now all that stuff is itchy. It's all itchy like crazy, but it's in. It's in planted. And it showed me. Based on the height match between the two trees, I'm gonna have to re. Level, regrade my front yard, which I knew I needed to do, but I didn't realize how bad it was. So now I've got to do that to get the burlap to be level with everything else and then get a sidewalk finished along the front. If I'd had that sidewalk, it wouldn't have been as bad. And that just told me I'm. Yeah, if I put the sidewalk, this would have been easy breezy. Anyhow, I'm not going to talk too much news, Crypto. I got a couple things, but I have an update. I, I want to help make people laugh. That's what I want to do. And today we're going to make people laugh because, I don't know, I, I think Russ cult leader might have a different alternate. You know, ego or something. CoinDesk.com we're going to zoom out to the month chart, starting with Ethereum, although both Ethereum and Bitcoin show the same pattern, that being a sideways Trend over the 4 Ethereum. Over the past 24 hours, a low of just shy of 4300 bucks. A high of 4400 bucks. Currently at the 4300 mark as I record and then bitcoin again sideways over 24 hours. A low of just shy of 109 grand. A high of 100 and just shy of 112 grand. Currently roughly about the 112 grand mark. Sideways trend as I said. And some of the other, you know, alts are kind of in this middling phase. Hbar being one that did a slight, you know, recovery, but other than that they're middling. They're all in the middle tier. So nothing significant going on other than the big news that being World Liberty Financial doing its launch, making the token widely available. Launched on Binance as I recall first. So that spiked a significant amount of volume. Of course people are still pissed off because it did the pump and dump crapped and went down. Its low was like 23 cents. Currently it's low is like 20 cents. I believe I went, it went down. It was dropping like a rock. And I called out on the whole thing. It's like, dude, you guys with this supply, I don't know what, what logic there was in the supply that you chose. The total supply that is 100 billion tokens circulating is only just shy of 25 billion tokens. That means that when you talk about dilution of what's going on right now, the market cap's just shy of $6 billion and fully diluted is just shy of $23 billion. And so fully diluted, if you see every single token get added to circulation, that means this price is going to go down. It there's no way it's going to go any higher. Because, and some people speculated, well that's because they priced it too dang high pricing of course, meaning in terms of the balance, liquidity balance that they priced it too high and they were targeting too high as a result. In response to this fervor that's happening, the allegedly the Trump folks, not Donald Trump, but his kids, they're planning to do some sort of buyback and burn strategy. It says all of the liquidity trading fees would be used to buy back and burn tokens. Cause I said unless you burn 90% of the supply, don't expect this damn thing to go anywhere. I have no idea why a hundred billion tokens made any damn sense for something like this. Because why don't you just settle for a billion tokens? Like that would have been a nice clean number, especially if you're planning to use it. For pairs, for other tokens like they talked about, you only need like a billion. Like look what Ethereum's doing, it doesn't have a billion tokens so why did a hundred billion make any damn sense? Because they were playing off of people's sentiment, right? They're playing off of oh yeah, I can hold a million token deep, deep. And you really can't because the price is too damn high. Not rent, but the price is too damn high with this amount of circulating supply. I'm telling you and you can, I'm, I'm recorded. You can hold me. I'm telling you this is an inflated, artificially inflated price. You would ask okay, well what's a fair price for this damn thing to me personally? Based on the circulating, only circulating supply I would expect 2, maybe 3 cents. So maybe 10x down from where it is now I think would be a fair price given that 25. When you talk about the hundred it's even worse because you're talking it, you know, maybe a penny but that's a stretch because you're talking so many people buying into the shit like it's, I don't see that it's going to get to that, you know, pinnacle once it hits a hundred. I don't see it's going to go up. Maybe it does but you got to think most of the people that were going to put major money in it would have been on the pre sale. For those that didn't remember, I did an update about this pre sale and I talked about people being pissed off because you had to be a so called accredited investor. Accredited investor, all that means is that you're wealthy. I'm an accredited investor if I wanted to, but I didn't want to pre sell. There was no value for me. But that's all it is, is you're wealthy up to a point. And when they say wealthy, wealthy is not a lot. You just have to have a net worth that's at least 250 grand. That's easy if you own a house, right? So you know, so yes, I easily hit that threshold not just because I own a house but because of the money I make on my job. I easily made that but I didn't want to put money into this on the pre sale it didn't make any sense because the price was still high. I just thought it was overinflated. I didn't see a reason to pay that much money on it. I did buy in after it launched and it cracked back down and hit the 20 cents or 21 cents because I had throw away tokens from Thorium because it still does pay, believe it or not, even though apparently it's abandoned. So I took those throwaway tokens and I spun it over to World Liberty just to put a little bit over there, just to watch, see what happens on it. I don't expect much. I told people online, I don't expect much with this business. If you want to get in, it's up to you. But I, I totally do not expect this to go any significant. Some people think it is, but you got to think, I mean, he already has the Trump token out there and then you got this one and then Melania, the trust has already been burned. Like if you hadn't ripped people off with the Melania one, maybe. But there's too much, there's only so much money going around. And then you got to think some people are just going to get into Bitcoin because they don't see a reason to get into some of these alts anymore. The alt season is nowhere near what it was 2021. People are avoiding a lot of these other garbage tokens that are out there. So I just didn't feel like there was any strong value in buying into something like that, especially given what happened with Melania and the Trump token. If you want to get in, that's up to you. I'm not going to tell you what to do with your cash. I'm just saying to me, I did not see a value and I, I stick to that. For the remainder of today's episode, I am going to put a response and I think it's important because as much as it sucks, I'm gonna, I think it's important, you know, and I'll, I'll split this out separately. I will put this here for the full and I'll split it out. You know, I'll share it on like YouTube people to hear kind of the snippet of what it is. Because I, I, I've got to think. I've got to think. If you're from Saitama and you're hearing me and you were in Saitama, you know how Russ cult leader, he had all those tats that he showed up with out of thin air, right? I gotta think Nick Vanderberg from Block Dag, he's got to be the alter ego of Russ cult leader. He's got to be arms of tats. He's, he's talking about fud. He's talking about all the stuff they're doing. They're not addressing the fact that their marketing sucks. They're not addressing the fact that they lied. They're not. They make excuses. Hearing this guy, it's. It's like Russ cult leader all over again. That's why I said some consultant is telling these people to act like this because it, it's over and over. Cliff idiot on Shinja. Russ cult leader over here. They're all over the freaking place like these. The same mantra where they don't just own it and say, you know what? We got this raw, man. We. We told you there's going to be NBA. That was wrong. We thought we had it. We should not have fully announced until we got full confirmation. We didn't do it. You know, with this whole Seychelles. We should have got in front of it. We didn't. We screwed up. They don't own it. They keep saying they. They blame the United States. That's what this guy did. He blamed the United States for all their failures. No, dude, the NBA has nothing to do with the frickin crypto.com arena people like, come on, you can't use the US as a full excuse. If you want to blame them, that's fine. But at the end of the day, this is your screw up. Own it. You should not have been advertising and broadcasting before it was really ready. You did that to trigger fomo. You do that because you want money. Then he essentially called Anthony Turner a liar because Anthony Turner on one of the AMAs Straight said, and I'm going to share it here on today's episode because I think I need to do that. I hate having to expose people with Vaseline outside. But this one, this guy, he is, he's. Now he's as bad as bald Russ on what was that Lily? He's as bad as Russ Coley. He's as bad as Cliff Fetter. He's. He's in that group. Car salesman. Car salesman 2O. Car salesman 3 0. He's in that group of people that are on my hit list with an S because of the way that, that they duck the smoke and they're not acknowledging their failures. That's what people want from you. Acknowledge your failure. Don't say, yeah, we wanted that. Yeah, we had a contract. But the U.S. no, you say, you know what? We should not have even put it on the damn website. We shouldn't have promised you something only to back out. They just did the token 2049 and they backed out of it again. You'd make yourselves look like outlaw mud show freaks. That don't know what the after doing. And that's why people are coming at you. So I gotta come at him. You know me, you know, Leister CryptoTalkto FM. You know how I roll, man. I gotta do it. I was gonna. I was gonna leave him slide. I was gonna let him go, you know? But it's not even about scam at this point. I want to be clear. It's not even about that now. It's not. Because if you listen to the guy, he believes what he's saying. He truly believes what he's saying. He believes that he is legit. He believes that. That this is really a thing and they're just screwing up over and over again. What I. What do I always say, folks? And if you're new, welcome. What do I always say? Either you're a scammer or you're a blistering idiot. It can't be. It's got to be one of the two. There's no other answer. It's got to be one of the two. Let's understand which one it is. You're either scammers or you're blistering idiots. There is no in between. Then he's like, I've been in marketing so dang long. You'll hear the audio in a second. But I've been marketing so damn long. And you've been in marketing that damn long. And you don't understand that accuracy of messaging is actually critical to your success. You still don't understand that. So maybe your marketing is just about lying to people. Maybe that's why your photos up there on a cafe site instead of properly putting your freaking site together, getting rid of the astronauts and. I don't know. I don't know. I want to know what you think. CryptoTalk FM, hit the comment forum or comments below. I want to know what you think. I'm going to let you hear some snippets, and I'm going to expose Mr. Vanderburg for the liar that he is. Because he's a liar. And I'm sorry, I don't even know Anthony Turner. What I will say is, I don't appreciate him calling Anthony Turner a liar, because that's basically what he did. So I'm going to have to expose this dude. I don't want to do that. I'm tired of having to spank people. But he. Again, it's not even about scam. The guy's coming across like a jackass, and I don't accept it because he's calling Anthony Turner a liar. If Anthony Turner on the Thursday AMA comes out and says I got it wrong. Okay, fair enough. That's good messaging. But don't have Vanderburg come up over there talking about we're going on 6 million. No, dude, say we changed our mind or Anthony Turner had decided that we were going to do that. We talked about it, we're going to shift gears. No problem. People change minds all the time. But don't come at it as if the community is the one wrong because you guys can't get your act together. You can't get your story straight because it makes you look like scammers when you do that. Now, without further ado, because I'm, I'm done talking about that, but I am going to analyze what this idiot had to say. We're going to go line by line. I'm not going to go all of them, but we're going to talk about this. And then again, I really want to hear from you. I want the smoke. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Unlike these dudes, blockdag has been recognized by the World Future Awards as one of the top 100 blockchain and web three companies of 2025. [00:13:54] Speaker A: This is a true thing. WorldFuturewards.com top 100. It's at the top there. Scroll down, you'll see top 100 web three and blockchain companies of 2025. When you click on that page, you get a very tacky looking page and right there in about the middle it says explore the full list of winners. And Block Dag's terrible looking logo is right there slapped on there amongst big players like Binance, Avalanche, Bitcoin.com anchor and Aptos Labs. So it is true that they are listed on this site as, you know, having won this accolade of top 100 web 3 and blockchain companies of 2025. This is indeed truly the case. Now I would ask you, sir, where exactly is that information on your site? How come that information is not prominent on your site? Instead of stupid astronauts and shit, how about you actually broadcast something like this that's designed to increase sentiment. How about instead of promoting a 2049 that you had to yank in embarrassment, how about you promote something like, something useful, something valuable like this World Future Awards on your site. Just a thought. I'm just trying to help you out here because I don't see anywhere on your site prominently. I'm not talking buried links deep. I'm talking right on the front page. Get rid of the stupid astronauts. Get rid of the tokens get rid of the pre sell stuff and just say, look, we had this accolade. We're celebrated in this way. You can link here and go and verify yourself to be the truth because that's how you actually increase sentiment without coming across looking like scammers. I continue. [00:15:31] Speaker B: So come and see me and say hi and yes, I'm a real person and yes, I will be at Singapore. We're not folding under the pressure. We're taking control. This is Block Dag showing up on a global stage on our terms. We have a huge announcement to make and we will be doing it the right way. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Now, you got to see the video at this point because he gives a very smarmy smile and then it disappears straight away. You know, like that meme of Vladimir Putin where he's like laughing and laughing and then he goes serious, because it's actually backwards. He starts serious and goes laughing. But somebody reversed it, so it's actually quite good. And then these, I'm gonna call them scammers on Devi, right? So, Debbie, they're chatting on these calls. They're laughing and smiling at each other like they got some inside secret. That's what Vanderburg's doing. That's why I say he's just like all these other ones. He's doing the same stuff. And again, if you have something exciting that you'd like to announce, maybe you should have that prominent on your site, said astronauts and shit. Maybe you should have that prominent on your site instead of phony codes. Maybe you should have that prominent on your site instead of flip flopping pricing. The point is, you got all this stuff you claim you got, but you're not putting the right stuff on your fricking site, dude. Like, do you not understand why sentiment is important? If you got all this great information, why don't you broadcast it on your site? Why are you keeping it subtle? It's the same chaos that happened with Lily Finance, same chaos with Terrarium, same chaos with Saitama where they have all, we got to keep a devi. We got to keep it secret. We can't do. And then meanwhile, they're doing all this shill and hype and FOMO marketing. They don't understand. None of them understand how to act like a business. That's the problem. You don't know how to act like a business. That's why you lost sentiment, dude. And you're not going to get it back acting the way you are. I continue. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Our minor deliveries are proof in motion. The first of around 13,000 plus miners are being delivered right now. This is not a promise, it's not a projection. It's actual deliveries. We're not Amazon Prime. We are managing global logistics. DHL and partners are handling thousands of unique packages on a one to one basis. And you've already seen the first YouTube unboxing. This is proof that they're out there. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Did you catch that? We call that a Chewbacca. Okay, let me explain what he did just there so that you're not fooled by the Okie doke. When he says, quote, we're not Amazon Prime, I'm going to translate what he's really saying that he should be saying. If he had any morals or ethics. What he's really saying is we're struggling. We chose to do it ourselves. We partnered with a vendor who's not the best vendor to use for something like this. And because we screwed up, because we got it wrong, we're falling behind and we don't know what we're doing. Here's the deal. It's fine to be falling behind. Logistics nightmares are a common thing. The flaw is when you make promises your ass can't catch. Because that's what you did. Because you said that the miners will be out weeks ago. In fact, you said miners going to be out months ago. That's the problem. And you're not owning it to say, look, here's the deal with the minors. We told you dates that were bullshit. We got it wrong and we apologize. We shouldn't have put dates when we weren't sure. The problem is messaging. The problem is not that you got delayed. The problem is your messaging sucks because you're telling lies, dude. That's the problem. So now you're doing the Chewbacca, trying to distract people and Lifestyle FM is not going to let you do get away with it. Because it doesn't matter that you're not Amazon Prime. It doesn't matter that you're not a logistics beast. It matters that you tell the truth about what really is. Don't tell something where you're not sure. And you've done that multiple times. You're not sure. You're putting it out there because you're doing FOMO marketing. You're trying to get people triggered to buy your damn token. That's what you're doing. Dude, we know the game. We've seen it countless. I've already given you names of car salesmen, head and cult leaders aplenty who have all done the same thing. You've done better than you. So we already Know the game that you're playing. You might think in your mind that everything's on the up and up and you don't have to be transparent. I'm here to tell you you don't have to be transparent, but that you can't get all salty and butthurt when people stop buying your product. Okay, we're going to get to that here momentarily. [00:20:17] Speaker B: I continue on our ASIC miners. Yes, prototypes were shipped. Yes, we showed them. We've tested multiple suppliers and now we're scaling for a global rollout. [00:20:31] Speaker A: Did you catch it again, another Chewbacca? Because on their very site and on their AMA they said they settled on a supplier IB Link. That's what triggered Vos Coin to come out and say it was because they said they got a supplier. Ivy Link. You're hearing this numb nuts. Now saying that they tested multiple suppliers. What happened to Ivy League? He didn't mention Ivy League anywhere in this video. Did that fall out? Because here's the problem again is messaging where you're saying something that turns out not to be the truth as you're getting exposed with your pants down and Vaseline off the side every time it makes you look incompetent and worse. And this is what pisses me off. You're making Anthony Turner look like an idiot and you're making Dr. Hurley looking like an idiot. And you putting this out with a bunch of falsehoods and bullshit makes them look like crap too. Cuz they're right along with you. And I wish Anthony Turner would grow a pair and step up and tell you that you ain't worth dude because what you're doing is embarrassing the brand, I suspect. Just like Bald Russ on Lily Finance. Just like the numb nut doctors on Terrarium. Just like the cult leader, you're the one that's killing the business here. When I say that there's an incompetent marketing somebody doing all this, baby, it's you. Maybe it's not that other one I thought it was. Maybe it's you because the way you're messaging is completely contradictory to what your peers were talking about on the ama. That means you're calling them liars and I wish they would check you on it and kick your ass out of here. I continued. [00:22:14] Speaker B: Let's look at our sponsorships. These have been globally negotiated and they're real. I've spent 30 years in advertising and media and at this level deals take months, sometimes years. These aren't overnight deals. They are the result of months of negotiation. And global franchises and teams of part of that negotiation. And yes, we announced the NBA franchise discussions, and yes, we had contracts in hand, but USA crypto regulation shifted and we had a pullback. [00:22:50] Speaker A: So let's decompile. What he's saying is. And again, it's a Chewbacca. And I don't want you to be fooled by what he just did to you. What he's doing is he's acknowledging that they fucked up. Okay? We announced something when we weren't ready, we announced something when it wasn't done. And we shouldn't have done that. That's what he should have said. Instead he's saying, I got so many years in the business that this takes years. Yes, it does. That's why you don't announce it till it's really a done deal. Because if you had any common sense, that's what you would do, is you would wait until it's a solid done deal before you put anything up there. But again, we know what you're doing. It's FOMO marketing to trigger people to buy in off of all the stuff. And all you've done is damage the reputation of the business and cause a loss of sentiment. I know they're still loyal to your community. I understand. I'm not trying to piss them off. I want those loyalists to understand that this guy is the reason for the damage to your project. He's the reason he is acknowledging on record audio that he's the reason for it. And he further exposes himself as the root cause of the problem here shortly. Listen to this part. [00:23:57] Speaker B: What is our pre sale and partnership commitment? And we've said this from the beginning, we're launching block DAG at 600 million. We've stuck to that. [00:24:07] Speaker A: I'm not going to spend any more time on this numb nuts, because he just exposed himself. Because anybody who listens to the AMA knows what he said was he's full of crap. All right, but you don't need to hear it from me. Why don't you listen to Anthony Turner? [00:24:23] Speaker C: Targets. We were trying to meet. I know. So maybe he's taking a step back. Initially, when the project launched, there was a target of 600 million. There was no end in sight. So we were going to run the project till we hit that. That was. Well, it would have taken too long. It doesn't make sense to launch next year. You never know what next year brings. So we decided to rather announce that we are launching this year. So obviously the 600 is no longer. [00:24:49] Speaker A: Did you hear that? Did you hear that? I heard that. That's from AMA number five. Done in March from Anthony Turner with Nick Vander Idiot sitting right next to the dude. And you heard what he said. He said it didn't. That was the target. It doesn't make sense. We're launching in 2025 and it's no longer the target. That's what your CEO, your chief executive officer, who should be the one calling the shots, just told you. Yet Mick Vander Idiot claims that, no, we're doing 600 million, which is it? And that's what I'm saying. You're calling Anthony a liar is what it is. Now, let's say you talked internally and you decided to hold to the 600 million. Then Anthony shouldn't have gone up there and made a definitive say. This is what we're doing. You come across as inconsistent and inept and incompetent when you do that. It's fine to change your mind. Then what you do, Mr. Vander Idiot, is you come out and you say, we talked internally. We know we told you that we were not going to hold the 600 million. We apologize for sounding like idiots, but we talked it out. We decided we're going to hold to the 600 million. We apologize if anybody fomo in because we told you that we were going to launch definitively in 2025. Because you're not launching in 2025. You hold to 600 million because your rate is near nothing now. You're not going to get there. Your video damn sure ain't going to spike interest in the project. So you have a choice. If you want to launch in 2025, you're going to need let go of that 600 million. If you want to hold the 600 million, you're not launching in 2025. Either way it goes. Either way it goes, you've got your foot in your mouth, sir. The smart thing for a smart leader is to say we're going to hold to what our CEO promised you. We're gonna hold to that. We're just gonna launch 2025. We're gonna let go of the 600 million. I shouldn't have told you that we're holding the 600 million because I don't know what the hell I'm doing because I'm not the one in charge, nor should I be talking like I'm in charge and embarrassing the project. That's what should happen. I know it won't. Okay? I'm done. I'm not gonna. It's too easy. It's easy. Work to embarrass the guy because he doesn't get it. He doesn't get he's in a bubble, crypto bubble. He doesn't. He doesn't get that the piss poor messaging is the problem all the way around. It's not that we changed our mind, we learned stuff, the laws change, all those are fine. But you need to message that, communicate that. Get rid of the astronauts and shit and just message what's going on and the decisions you're making and the decisions you're changing as you do it. And don't go on the AMA saying something contradictory and then go on another AMA and basically call your CEO a liar. Dude, that's the problem. Your messaging is crap. Your marketing is crap. Your website is a nightmare. You don't get it because you and I know now you are going to be the death of this thing. Because somebody else made the point. As I wrap up, somebody else made the point. CASPA took eight years to do their dag, to do their whole setup. It took eight years to get to that point. And yet Block DAG is going to pull something off in just shy of two years. That's extremely unlikely. Are they going to launch something? They might. But when you got numb nuts like this who just hold firm to something, though highly unrealistic, all you're doing is killing the business. And by the time it does come out, it's already going to be surpassed by other things in the business. We are already seeing that tons of projects can no longer do what Pepe did. You're past that era. You're past the era of shooting for the sky. Even Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial couldn't surpass what it did before on the Trump Token. Even he couldn't make it happen. Elon can no longer pump Doge. We're in a different era. You guys, or you specifically, Vander Idiot, are stuck in a time when it was easy to fool people. I never once called you a scam. I said your marketing sucks. Your messaging is crap. And that's really what it is. And this video where you embarrassed yourself is just solidifying that. I know what I'm talking about. It's messaging. It's marketing. And you're the one that's killing the business. And it's not going to get any better until you course correct and acknowledge what you're doing wrong. You say what you're doing wrong. You apologize to the investors for getting it wrong. You change the marketing to stop all the FOMO tricks and act like a Real business. And by the way, don't go up on the air on your own calling your CEO a liar ever again and again. If Anthony Turner ever hears it, this guy Vander idiot needs to be out of there. If he's not, if you keep him, if you like him, if you support him, fine, then we'll sit back and watch. I'm going to keep on calling you out for the bullshit because it's not fair to investors who believed in you, who believe that you might be trying to do something. People like myself that like Dr. Hurley, and we think highly of Dr. Hurley, but we were saddled with idiots like you in the way of something that might be something. That's the sad thing. When you're called scammers by Vos Coin. When you have detailed 21 page write ups calling you a scam spreading all over social media and you don't seem to care because you got however many years in the marketing business and got a damn thing to show for it because all you've done is tank this damn thing. So I am going to call it out because it's the only thing I can do. I'm going to use my platform and I'm going to call it out. And once again, you heard I never. I'm using his own words. His own words are bull because he doesn't understand. He doesn't belong in this. He shouldn't be in this. If you get rid of him, you might actually see some positive attraction. But he doesn't belong in this. And the longer he's in here, I don't see it's going to go anywhere anytime in the short term. Prove me wrong, folks. Sam.

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