Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Out of Cycle Update.
[00:00:02] Have you ever been one of those situations where you really dread and regret and don't look forward to it? That's how I feel right now. CryptoTalk FM. My name is Leister. I'm your host. It's like a race, you know, you're tired at the end, you're fatigued, muscles hurt. Your brain has already said, you know what? Screw this, dude. But you gotta finish it. You gotta get over the finish line. That's how I am. That's what I'm doing. Because this is the last of the lengthy coverage episodes for this bullshit known as the Saitama Saga. And we're gonna cap it off with the person who was still left standing after the dust settled. And turns out there were a couple more people. And I think they were a bit players, but there was a couple more people. Nam was one of them. We talked about that one. But we also know that Aaron Mansour, AKA Elon Mansour on Twitter was also left behind. He was part of the last pieces. So I'm, you know, I. I don't want to do it, but I think I need to do it. Let's just get it out of the way, you know, with Manny the Rug Puller. That's what we're going to talk about here today. That rhymes. I. I dug this one because, you know, the guy was too stupid to delete a lot of his tracks. So I think, you know, of all of the ones I've covered, right, Cult leader Russ, he left a trail, bloody gloves all over the fricking crime scene, right. Nam cleaned up after himself. So I think Nam was clearly the smartest of this montage of scammers. He was clearly the smartest of it. Willie D. Was brilliant getting out as early as he did because they would have made him the fall guy. Steve was brilliant getting out when he did. They would have made him a fall guy. So the ones that got out, I think they were brilliant getting out when they did is my point. And Nam is a genius for covering his ass, but he was an idiot for some of the other stuff that he did while he was there. So it's almost like his brilliance came late. He was a late bloomer. I don't know what that was about. Manny the Rug Puller, he just was an idiot all the way through. I mean, I did a couple of coverages on YouTube. They're still out there with the whole side of Chain. And I was trying to get the benefit of the doubt, and I did fair analysis, and I called out Red flags. And I'm like, look man, I'm willing to help you here if you're serious about this. It looks serious, but you got some problems. And he didn't. No response. Don't say anything. It's cool. Hey, whatever. And then the rug pull from pancake swap. And I'm like, this is a bad move. Rug pull from unis swap. I'm like, this is a bad move. Next thing we know, they're just often nothing showing up and people are wondering about the sight of card and all this stuff. And then next thing we know, case lot, Law and order. So we're going to do some dives. But I was interested in some of the timeline and I'm going to focus this one. We've already talked it at length ad nauseam about the case. We know what happened. Okay. To summarize, for those that just need the short and sweet and didn't listen to the other ones. You really need to listen to the other ones. It's almost five hours worth of great coverage. You really need to listen to the other ones. And I've got some guest stars not on the show, but people that stop by that were part of this whole fiasco that I'm going to be talking about here in the Manny the Rug Puller episode. Cuz they were part and parcel with this.
[00:03:11] Here's the thing at a very high level, the SEC considered Saitama an unregistered security. The SEC considered Cider Realty an unregistered security. The reason they consider them unregistered securities is because of the fake promises that they made about both projects along the way. And you heard a lot of these things as having been said from this team. They were telling you a lot of lofty about both tokens, mostly Cider Realty. Cider Realty, I think is what really picked their ears, which was we're gonna buy these properties. You're gonna have a financial stake in it. Of course, that's the security. Right? They knew that stuff. The Saitama LLC and all the smoke where Russ said he was not associated with Lily Finance only to turn around and see he was. He registered a freaking llc. Saitama Dash, Lily Finance llc then later went on a video and claimed, oh, that was a mistake. Do you. You can't make that mistake. Registering an LLC is a. You have to like it's intentional that you do these things. You have to fill out a piece of paper that says I intend to do this. You have to purposely put somebody's name on it. You have to have that person sign there is no such thing as a mistake. That was a lie. Everything cult leader did was a lie. We knew that. What we didn't know is what was now Manny the Rug Puller's involvement since he takes over what is now known as Saitama. We need to understand what was his true involvement when the shift happened. Because it came out of thin air, right? Cult leaders out of there. All the rest of them are out of there. And then all of a sudden, he's taken over and he's going to be leading Saitama at the time.
[00:04:50] Before we get there, though, because that's very somewhat recent. That's like a year back. We've got to go back further. We've got to go back to the earliest time when I recognized that the guy was a blistering idiot, this Manny the Rug Boy.
[00:05:04] For this. We're. We're talking around now after the failed November 13th Vegas event. So we're in January, February, time frame. Ish. Okay.
[00:05:16] Rug puller is arguing with people on Twitter like a fucking child. This is a guy who's titled the cfo, and he's arguing with people on Twitter, and people call him out like, dude, you're a cfo. Allegedly CFO of a corporation, and you're acting like a child when you do this stuff.
[00:05:37] February, okay?
[00:05:39] He sends a message out in response to Ryan Patrick. Ryan Patrick's one of the marks I called about. And when I say mark, nobody approached Ryan. I'm talking about the way Ryan acted around Russ and the rest of them. He was acting like a mark. He was like a fanboy. He was just so embedded and believed everything that the cult leader said. So, yes, I am calling out Ryan despite the fact that I thought he left money on the table and should have gotten an asmr. And I did warn him back when I had a Twitter. I'm like, you need to get into amsr. You leave money on the table. Because every time he would do his video. I don't know if anybody heard Ryan Patrick's videos back then. I don't know if he still does. But back then, he's like, hey, what's up, guys? This is Ryan Patrick. And I'm like, dude, you're leaving money on the table. You need to do asmr. I guarantee you, you're going to have women, they're not going to throw panties at you, but they're going to throw money at you to hear your voice as they're trying to go to sleep. He didn't listen and now he's blindly listening to the cult leader like a mark. And now we see what happens. He gets halfway ripped. I say halfway because he was one of the very select few that actually realized somewhat of a gain off of what happened. That's why I wanted to focus on the very start point that I saw some of the ignorance coming from Manny the rug Puller. That was when Ryan was getting pissed off about the delays.
[00:07:02] January, February. This is around the time they're talking about Cider Realty now. So after the failed November 13th Vegas event, they're not going to fix Saitama, but they lo. They announced this whole site of realty. They're going to get the mask working. All this stuff they're planning to do, everybody knows it's. But the point is, they sold the cult. And let's be honest, at the time, Ryan was part of the cult. He might not have thought he was part of the cult, but he was part of the culture at the time.
[00:07:31] He sends a message out and he says something to the effect of, you know, Russ announced that there's going to be a delay in releasing this business. Okay, It's. It's getting kind of old now. I'm just going to dump off my bag. Here's what actually happened with this fiasco at the time, right? So allegedly there was something with the liquidity. They were trying to get the liquidity added. They were having. They said they were having issues getting liquidity added on the swap. So this is trying to get it into the Cytomask of the time. Now, remember, Cytomask was still a buggy show. They had not committed to launching Cider Realty on Uniswap at this point. They were still trying to get it crammed into the master. Didn't work. Which is why I was critical of them even saying, we're gonna put this and get this when you don't even have the freaking thing working for the main Saitama token. So why are you coming out with the side of realty business now? This is a month after the initial BS news coming from the cult leader. Patrick's talking about, I'm selling basically half his bag, which is 1 trillion Saitama, which of course, was still worth a decent amount of change at this point. It. It had craft, but it was still worth a decent chunk of change at this point.
[00:08:42] Rug Manny the rug puller, responds to Ryan Patrick. And this is where the childishness comes into play. And I'm like, dude, what the. I called him out on one of my videos, like, dude, what the hell's wrong with you? He says something like how much you get to fudge back Mike Just going to sell or whatever the. And it's like. And this. This back and forth between the two of them was repeated constant. Anytime somebody was calling out from the team. Manny the hit man, certainly Russ the cult leader, but Manny the Hitman in particular, he would always just argue with people. He was like, he's like the freaking Dave Meltzer of Saitama. He would just argue like a child. And that's why I said this dude isn't freaking idiot. Because he's not acting like a real business. None of them really are. At least cult leader. Now he does his little smarmy stuff, but he doesn't argue with every single person on Twitter like Manny the Hit. Manny the Rug puller Hitman Rug puller. Because he's both was doing at the time.
[00:09:42] Fast forward now. And I am purposely skipping a lot of the bullshit because it doesn't really matter. The important date is happening in November. November 2023. End of November 2023. Some of this the proceeding was roughly around October, but November 2023 is the key date when they announce. Manny announces that all right, we've now we're taking Saitama the token.
[00:10:08] And I want to quote from the statement because there were some people on YouTube who who didn't understand what really happened. That's why I wanted to do this on Manny the Rug Puller. So you understood quote. We are thrilled to share something incredibly exciting with you. Saitama Token, originally a utility token has now evolved into SA Chain Coin Stop. So it is the reason the FBI called outside of chain in their letter is because Saitama is cider is Saitama. What they did is they went to coin Market Cap all the exchanges. With the exchanges they had to do a swap drop because it's a different type of token on a different chain. Because remember Saitama was only Ethereum with coin to avoid the gas issue from before they airdropped you Binance smart chain tokens. That was a different token. The point is the Ethereum variant of said was Saitama. They just rebranded it. They told Corn Market Cap just change the name to cider chain Coin. Which is what they did. Same with Coin Gecko. The exchanges had to receive different tokens because of the different chain involved with the airdrop. In order for people who held to get the airdrop variant, they had to spin it up as a different token which caused the Gate IO issue because Gate IO said on their site we can't get the cider chain coin token from the team. You need to talk to them. In the meantime, we're going to continue to let you trade Saitama, which was the Ethereum based Saitama, the old one, which is still out there by the way. That would be what we now know as the V2. So you can consider what we now know as Cytochain as Saitama v3. That's why the FBI still had their eye on it. Because remember, SA Card started with Saitama. It was now launched under SA Chain. All the different Saitama based products that they were working on, including Cider Pro, all of that rolled under Cider Chain. How can you decouple them? You cannot. As far as they're concerned, it's all one big scam. It's all one big heist. Remember, Manny the rug puller took the largest windfall over $20 billion of your money by the way, leading up to the failed November 13th Vegas event. And there's a strong probability some of your money went to this side of chain and the layer 0 blockchain. You might not care because you're so excited about it. I just need to make sure we're clear.
[00:12:45] For all intensive purposes, it's one of the same. Saitama is side of Chain. Side of chain is Saitama. You cannot separate the two simply because they're doing different. They went a different direction with a different build because they did it wrong. Anyway, we're going to get back to that business. Recall that Manny took over Saitama in September 2023. October 2023 is when they start sharing the roadmap for what would eventually evolve into Cider chain. They stated May 2021. End of May 2021 is when officially trading started for Saitama.
[00:13:20] They called out then 2022. October is when they got that award for most transparent project. And it was exposed that they paid for that award. There was no real transparency. It wasn't really awarded. They paid to be awarded this deal. A trinket that didn't really mean much of anything. February 2023, they go to the Blockchain Economy Summit. June 2023. They're talking more about silo logistics at the time. That's all they said. Fast forward. Now they're talking more about doing blockchain. They had launched X Bridge. There's a lot inside of logistics is called out in this. But there's a lot of different pieces that they're talking about doing as part of this rebrand to side of Chain. And we would learn that Elon Mansour and Nam Tran are coming along for the ride and they're still involved, but the other people are considered, quote, advisors. So if you look at the actual hierarchy of side of chain, it only really calls out Manny the Rug Puller. The rest of them are deemed advisory. So if it's, if that's true, then the question is, what was going on with Elon Mansour?
[00:14:27] I said, in my past, there's an individual one called out, which I theorize was Elon or Aaron Mansour. I can't say that it was. I'm asking the question if Elon Mansour rolled along with this and he's still actively involved, Right? So cult leaders, not because he got fired, but he's actually evolved. You can see him on Twitter. He's tweeting, he's retweeting all the way up to the end. I think October 6th is the same day he stopped tweeting. And I speculated, is it possible that he got called up by some law enforcement saying, we got you, so give us something or we're taking you down and maybe they want a bigger fish. Maybe they wanted Manny the Rug Puller, because Manny the Rug Puller's name was all over cider chain. Do you see where I'm kind of connecting the dots theory? Tinfoil though I might be.
[00:15:16] His name was all over this stuff. I'm leading this, I'm creating this, I'm taking it over. Founder of Saitama, like he's projecting himself as the boss. Okay, I'm saying, is it possible that one of them, and I don't know that it was Aaron? I'm saying one of these insider scammers got called up on the lamb and they put him in a room, blank room with a one way mirror on a desk and they slapped down, just like Matrix style, they slapped down a folder and said, we got some stuff on you, Mr. Anderson, and whatever and make a deal or you're going to jail for a very long time. I don't know. That's what happened. I'm theorizing that's what likely had to have happened. Because again, how could they have gotten access to the video that that idiot Nam recorded? How could they have gotten access to the private telescam chats that were going on unless they had an insider and if the insider was not there from day one because if they, they couldn't have been there from day one because they would not have been sitting on it for three and a half years. That doesn't make any sense. Chances are the Insider, they were compromised sometime after the fact. We just don't know who it specifically was. We do know whoever was in the private telescam channel, and we know that was a finite list of people. Whoever was in that channel that was, you know, weak enough would have been the one that got compromised. At the point we said it certainly could not have been Russ cult leader. And we know that it would not have been Manny the Rug Puller V wouldn't have been that stupid. So it only leaves a couple people left that likely would have been compromised to where they got exposed. And then here we are, you know, years later, beginning of November, the official account as retweeted by Manny the Rug Puller sends out a notification regarding cite a card.
[00:17:00] Here's where I think my theory that the US Feds started to add a little bit more to their reminder. Quote, the launch of Citacard is rescheduled for a later date. That's yet to be decided. This time is being used to secure regulatory approvals and licenses in various countries, ensuring a seamless experience for users worldwide. Stop. We know that. And right now, if you try to go to the. What I saw was the side of chain site, it's dead. We know they didn't get any regulatory approvals whatsoever from the United States. That's fine if they chose to isolate themselves to other countries. But when you say quote, worldwide, you're giving people the impression that you're doing it on the up and up across the globe. Is it possible that they tried to get regulatory approval? Foresight a card. And as a result of the attempt of them doing so, it caused the feds to come after them when they did the research that they normally would do. Because anything that's a financial crime, the government is way more aggressive on financial crime than any other crime. There are people that did nothing but cheat their fricking taxes, spending years in prison. And you get Rebecca Gayard who killed a child. Cause when she got drunk and she was out free. I'm telling you, financial crime, that's where the government really comes down on you. If you're, you know, abetting, you're doing something where it's financially criminally intended, you, they're going to come after you. And they're pit bulls. They're not going to stop because that's what they do. Is it possible that them trying to go up in there and get registered, set off some flags somewhere, they did some digging, saw some shady shit, said, okay, we got you guys. And when they pulled one of these weak Ones compromised them. And then here we are. I can't say that's what happened. I'm asking tinfoil, Is it possible? Month of November 2023 it's all about side of Chain, the blockchain. They're back and forth, back and forth about what side of Chain is going to do. They're celebrating what it's looking like. They released the Test net and then the Alpha Test net and all the results of speed and they hooked into the increasing popularity at the time of the Solana chain by saying, we're going to be able to process much faster than what Solana can do, but we're also more stable. Multiple of them talked about how Solana keeps crashing, myself included, how Solana seemed to be unstable and couldn't stay up for the life of it. The Saitama team, now Cytochain team was promoting itself off the back of the failures of Solana, the slowness of other chains and the expensive fees of Ethereum by saying this as a layer 0 chain is going to change the world and we're going to be doing all these great stuff and layer one EVM and compatibilities and all this garbage to promote this business. December Manny the rug puller reaches out and said, and I remember this whole back and forth and he basically says to the effect who should we reach out to to talk with regarding what we're doing? But he's essentially looking for somebody who's going to kiss his ass, somebody's going to ask him softball questions. He's not looking for somebody who's going to hold his feet to the fire about what's going on. He wants a shiller, somebody to shield the product. Multiple names are thrown out there. Some of them make me laugh. For example, Bitboy was thrown out there. Zach Humphries was thrown out there. Austin Hilton was thrown out there. Zach Humphries, Austin Hilton, both marks. Bitboy would not have promoted CIDA Chain, certainly not at that time. From what I knew of how he behaved, he was not going to promote the project at that time. But then you had ones like Elon Musk come on. Really? The guy who said, no, I'm not promoting any sort of these cryptocurrencies. Gary V. Really? C.Z. binance really, this is what we're doing. So all they care about, all the people these, these cult now new cult. These are new cult members. All they really care about is just getting somebody to shill and hype the token. So all of these people have drank the Kool Aid. They're so embedded. They don't understand they got scammed on Saitama. They didn't know about the pump and dump, but they did know that the wallet was a buggy show. They did know about the failures and failures and failures. They did. Launch site of Pro. It was reasonably stable. But the point is, you've already been burned, you've already been ripped off. The Hopium, though, was still there. That's what motivated Manny the rug puller to keep on going with his grift was because he realized, okay, I can build my cult and we're out Cult leaders out of here. I took his cult people and now they're following me. We just need to get more shillers and do it all over again. Fast forward to March 2023, early March. They're doing all sorts of shill. I'm talking literally all of them. They're building up this cult. They're getting all the celebration happening and it culminates with this Binance Futures contest that's spinning around where allegedly there was an opening for them to get on Binance Futures side of Chain Coin and they're shilling and hyping the community to get on Binance Futures. This lasts all the way through to the end of the month. Constant. Geez, it was nuts at the time. Constant tweets, constant memes, constant everything saying, no, we need to get on the freaking. We need to do this. Come on, come out, wolf pack. A deep back and forth and back and forth. End of March, the Cider Chain official account sends an announcement. This was the first one that I ran into the ringer about, but I didn't follow it at the time of why this likely happened. Now I'm connecting the dots again. Quote, to better serve our community's needs, we're optimizing our platform by redirecting the Cider chain BNB pair exclusively to Cytoswap. This change comes in response to the high demand for this pairing. Starting immediately, the cider chain BNB pairing will be available exclusively on Citus Swap through the Cytopro app and our decks. As a result, trading for Cider chain on Pancake swap will be discontinued. Stop. So I ran them through the ringer about this because if your TRA first they air dropped the cider chain token through the Binance Smart chain. You didn't have a decision in that they chose the Binance Smart Chain. The main decks for Binance Smart Chain. It's not the only one, but it's the main one that most people are familiar with that every Wallet steers you to is pancake swap for Binance Smart chain tokens. So when they did this again, I thought it was just the guy being a blistering idiot. Now I'm connecting dots. They do this hype and chill and hype and chill and hype and chill with all their cult to try to get on Binance futures for weeks on end. From what I can tell. Clearly it didn't work. Is it possible that like spiteful children or maybe just child, maybe it was just Manny the rug puller. I don't know. Is it possible that like spiteful children, when they lost and their toys got kicked over, they said when? Fine. We're not going to play with you anyway. We're going to take it away from you now. D d Is it possible? It's possible. I can't say this would happen. I'm connecting the dots in terms of the timing and the events back to back. You start with this trying to get on Binance Futures, you do all the shilling hype, you take an L and then all of a sudden pancake swap's no longer good for you on the Binance Smart chain. I just find that very sketchy. Steering people to their decks, which was the biggest mistake I think they made because you air dropped through bnb. You said this is going to save gas, which it did. And you could have left that open and likely spiked all the volume had you stayed the course instead of yanking it. And I even predicted they were going to yank off Unis swap. Guess what happens next? Well, it started with X Bridge. X Bridge, of course. They launched back in September 2023 to much fanfare after they roll out the blockchain side of chain. I. I want to say it was like same day, day before, day after. It wasn't that far far from the actual launch of the blockchain. I distinctly remember seeing that, oh, we're rely reliable to do on the blockchain. Next thing I saw, oh, X bridge got breached. Because if I remember and I'm going off recollection when I do this, and I will go and validate what I see on their notes, but if I recall, the blockchain launches what, April 24, I want to say April 24, April 25, one of the two days. And then X bridge gets breached either that day or before it. And as I look, that's roughly what I'm seeing. So literally the day they launched. Now it's an unrelated incident because X bridge is not integrated with it at that point. But the timing was ironic to see that it gets breached the day of or the day before whatever with the X bridge right after the cider chain, the blockchain layer 0 gets launched. I was, I wasn't laughing, but I'm like dude, what?
[00:26:02] I don't. I don't know. So, so I did a video and I was criticizing what happened on the X bridge and the breach because when I went online I saw all sorts of code related garbage on the site that they had rolled out for citeachain things I should not have seen. Now they're likely UI based code, but there was also some server communication type code I should not see see in a properly well written website. So then I looked and Manny the rug puller gave a message where he was talking about an issue that happened with the blockchain that it was live on the 21st, but they ran into an issue with inaccurate gas fee estimates on Metamask. Anybody that was watching Citabask. So the very first, the failed version of Cytomask will remember the gas fee that was calculating was wrong. The price was wrong. Calculated wrong. So here we are again with inaccurate estimations of things and then April 24th, X Bridge itself gets breached. Once again, they are unrelated incidents, but the timing between these two things happening was a little bit ironic for my taste. I suspected not a targeted attack per se, but that there was something with the code that might have helped in how it was able to get breached. The way that it was getting breached, I couldn't say for sure. I'm saying that the timing between the two events was a little bit too close for comfort.
[00:27:26] Fast Forward to May. May 25th to be specific, this is when they announced that they're yanking their rug, pulling the liquidity off of Uniswap and they're going to exclusively do their token SBC 24 sided chain and BEP 20 which is Binance smart chain, just not on pancake swap. So just to be clear, what they've done is they've taken Saitama, what was completely out of the equation. There's no longer any Ethereum interplay with it at all. And they did an airdrop of those. There's like 500 of those holders still remaining.
[00:27:58] They dropped Binance tokens to those people. So there are some people that have like four variations of the Saitama token across span. Because of all the different airdrops that succeeded and some that failed. I question why you didn't just drop the damn SBC24 tokens. Because if I look at Richard Heart's Pulse chain. That's exactly what they did. They dropped tokens to your. They created a wallet on that chain for you and when you connect you're automatically there. Now, I know that one's a layer two, I believe it is. So it's or layer one. So it's a little bit different. The point is that they could have created wallets for everyone, connected to what was the Ethereum wallet, and then dropped the SBC24. It just takes work. But they could have done that and I think that would have gone over better to sell the narrative that the blockchain is really their future and they're not going to rely on the Binance smart chain. My theory about the Binance smart chain tie in was the hope that at some point in the future they would get on Binance. That's a theory. I can't say for sure that's what happened, but I was still critical of them rug pulling the liquidity off of Unis Swap because there you still had the old Ethereum token sitting in your wallet. They actually still have value. What they did is they blocked trading on the Ethereum side. So although the tokens are there and although they have value, you cannot trade them on Unis Swap. You can't even trade them on CIDA Swap or cidap Pro. You're just screwed. You have to trade the Binance variant. If you're going to trade the Binance variant, you have to go to their tool, which I was hypercritical about. The last significant update that we would see from Manny the rug puller is all around C card and getting sight of card launch. They talked about other stuff, like we're doing this stuff for a government agency for Kenya. We're doing this over here. But the sight of card is really the focus. That's their push and they're saying it's coming, we're close, we're about to do. But then nothing. And people chimed in saying, did you get your card? I didn't get the card and the site I saw was dead. It was not active. The only other chatter that I saw later, after the fact, of course, site of chain still active, they sent out the press release that said, manny the rug puller is no longer with side of Chain. We wish the best in his future endeavors. And that's after he had been called up on the lamb and arrested. So they had gone radio silent somewhere after, in October, like early October, ish, mid October, they had gone radio silent. We learned about the case and all these scammers getting Called up on the lam. They had initially said, we're waiting for all the facts and all the data. This is prior to him taking the, you know, asking for extension and saying, we don't want to be extradited. That's prior to this. Then he gets extra. They want him to get extradited. He doesn't get extradited. He's still up on the lamb. So he's still not out of the woods. And apparently, according to the documents in the case and all the notes and everything else that they would learn, that's when the cider chain team, whoever that is, I believe it may still be Aaron Mansour, but I can't confirm that said, we're. We're moving in a different direction. He's no longer associated with the project. He is not, as in rug puller, has not tweeted since that early to mid October range. Then just recently. So this is like last week, there was chatter that the cider chain team was still talking to other tokens about listing. And one of these was something Shaka the God. I have no idea who the hell that is. But the chatter was this person was allegedly associated with Valtron and that's the reason why the cider chain team chose not to partner up with them. The Faltron tie in. I thought that was really interesting because Foultron was one of the people I mentioned with the Shaman King Emu as an association because there's a Twitter or, excuse me, Telescope Channer out there with his photo and his name. He came. Allegedly was him, came to the chat on YouTube and said it wasn't his channel. Well, I asked, is this you, as in your photo? And then you got to ask, well, why would somebody take your selfie? Because it's a selfie with his phone, presumably, and attach your name to a completely unrelated Telescom channel. Why would somebody do this? I get the sense that Fon. Because people have told me this too. I get the sense that Fon.
[00:32:17] He believes what he's. Like Vince Russo, he believes what he's saying to be the truth, but he's. He's so off rocker. Like, he's the definition of a mark. Definition of a mark. At the end of the day, I just. I'm looking straight at his account on Twitter and I pull up his photo on his Twitter account. It's the same guy that's doing the selfie on the same telescope channel. So we know what it is. There's no motivation for somebody to just take a random person's photo, a Random person's name and attach it to a Shaman King Inu deal. We know what it is. We know that at some way he was associated. We don't know what the association was, but he was associated with Shaman King Emu. And we know what happened with Shaman King Emu. It crapped. But we also know that Falron was very combative, not just with this, but with other projects as well. He was on Shinja Shoei. He was the one arguing with Cliff Fetner. He's a very combative individual. We understand this. He can be combative.
[00:33:21] That's why I call him a mark, though, because he's combative over numbers on a blockchain. Yes, there's money involved. But him putting himself in all that stuff, he's worse than Bitboy crypto in terms of how people perceive some of these people. He's worse because at least with Ben Armstrong, he's not afraid to embarrass himself for ratings. But he knows it's a gimmick. Like, Ben knows he's. It's a gimmick. It's a work with him. He knows he's putting on a show. All the he's doing is putting on a show because he knows it gets people to dial in. That's what it is. Valtron legitimately believes he is something. And so when I saw him arguing with all these different people in the mix after Manny gets taken upon the lamb, I'm like, I don't know if we're better off with Manny getting locked up or worse. Because say what you will with some of these, like, the rut, Manny the rug puller, at least you had somebody there to filter out some of this noise that we no longer have that. Why am I telling that story? Because if there's still a connection with people like not just him, but people like a Faltron to Cytochain, I hope this helps you understand that Cytochain is Saitama. Saitama is Cytochain. They are inextricably linked because you still have the marks swirling around it. And as long as you still have that baggage, it will never succeed. My audio is here now. Okay? You can hold me accountable. I'm on record saying as long as you have these marks, it will never succeed. I thought. I legitimately thought that getting rid of the cult leader would help it succeed. I was wrong. I thought many initially that Manny the rug puller would turn it around, and I thought he was intelligent. I was wrong. I acknowledge I was wrong on those two statements that I made because they were wrong. But now I know I'm not wrong. These marks. You no longer have a filter for the marks out there. Because say what you will about these scammers, in some way they helped filter out the marks. We no longer have that. That means this cannot succeed if you choose to get in it. That's your. It's your money. Can't tell what to do with your cash. I'm saying I see no success as long as these marks are swirling around it. Because they're the ones that drum up the drama. Some of them like Rodney say some of them have the best of intentions in what they do. Some of them like Valtron not. They're all their marks for themselves.
[00:36:03] Cool. If you like the marks like the marks. Even kim.com likes one of the. He likes Valtron. Hey, you know, if you get that kind of notoriety a great. But we know what it is.
[00:36:16] I am. I am disappointed in what happened with Manny the rug puller because I was actually initially hoping he would turn out to be a damn thing.
[00:36:26] Especially after what happened with the cult leader. I thought he would be better for the. For the situation. Little did I know he was just as involved with the pump and dump of Saitama as the rest of them. And he made more money off of it than the rest of them. Turns up a cider chain. We don't know if he was trying to turn over a new leaf. We don't know if he was pumping dumping cider chain. What we do know is that he rugged pulled the liquidity off pancake swap and he rugged pull the liquidity off of Uniswap and he blocked the contract on Ethereum. All the rest of the shit doesn't matter. These are things that. These are factual things that happen. He rug pulled the liquidity. Rug pull is a dev makes money available and then makes it not available. That's a rug pull. It doesn't matter what his motivation was. He rug pulled it.
[00:37:12] So I was disappointed when he did that because I felt if you just let the thing run and you focus on it, you might have something. And he went a whole different direction perhaps to continue the Ponzi, I don't know.
[00:37:27] Now without that filter because he was a Manny the rug puller, he's a blistering idiot. We got marks like a Faltron in the mix still buzzards swirling around it. It will never succeed because they're in the way. So this has been the story of Saitama. This has been the history of Saitama. Everything I Described is public. You can search it yourself. I'm describing shit that's out there. None of it's made up, none of it's fake. It's out there. We don't know why some of it's out there. I don't know why Faltron's photo is associated with Shaman King Emu, but it's associated with Shama King Emu with a title that implies he's part of the team. I don't know why somebody would just randomly do that other than him. Chances are he did it and he probably forgot or he's trying to hide his shit. I don't know. Maybe he's an idiot. I don't know. I know he's a mark. That's all I do know. I know that all the rest of these scammers in Saitama created these marks. That's why I'm so energized about it. They created these marks with their pump and dump. That's what happened here. So my summary, now that I've gotten past all of it and I get back to my frickin game, I've got past all of them. Now my summary, I think Nam and to a lesser degree Manny the Rug Puller and to a lesser degree V, you know, because that's the origin. I think they're the ring leaders of this circus. I think they are the front of it. I don't think cult leader was as culpable as he was presented to be. Was he culpable? Absolutely, but not as much as he was presented to be. I think he was a mark who got paid, but he was a mark. That's what I believe happened. I think Max Hernandez was a mark. They found somebody who was willing to lie to them about development as a mark and he got paid, but he was a mark. Now Manny the Rug Puller, these two. These I believe are the ring leaders. I think they're. And that's why they. They were still there after the dust settled. Now with the Citus chain, they were still left over and still doing something. Perhaps continuing. The Ponzi don't know that that's true. I'm saying it's funny that they're still around and they at the time and then Aaron Mansour is still associated. So the three. You and three of them. Right. Two of them are named in the case directly individual one is not named. I theorize this. Aaron Mansour, Elon Mansour is associated with side of Chain along with Nam and Manny the Rug Puller.
[00:40:08] So everything I just Described just now. It's all tinfoil. I have no evidence of it, but I'm putting it together.
[00:40:16] And Elon Mansour hadn't been seen. I'm putting it together. I don't know. I truly don't know. What I know is that these scammers, they all lied to you. They pumped and dumped and took money from you, locked it up. Because remember, they took the liquidity and shifted it over to cider chain from Saitama V2. They didn't ask you to do it. They did it themselves. Cider chain craps. They rug pull liquidity from Pancake swap and Unis Swap. And then of course X bridge gets breached after the blockchain gets launched.
[00:40:49] These scammers, that's what they were on the case. But these scammers, they caused all of everything that happened. All the different connected projects. I haven't even talked about Lily Finance. I haven't talked about Terrarium. I will, because I think I have to, you know. But those will be slimmer episodes because that was easy, you know. Terrarium especially was easy. That was easy work. Lily was easy. So those are easier ones to cover. So I will be talking about those. But there'll be slimmer episodes. You won't have to wait for the weekend. That'll be sometime during the week when I'm bored. I'll just slip in a quick 15 minute or something to talk about each one of those. Because I think it's important that we round out all the different connected ones. I'm not going to go through all of them because so many God damn hoj Suzuki, Terrarium, Lily, Mononoke, Shinja, Shibnobi, you know, all of them. That, that just. There was so many, so many scams that circled around this group of scammers. And then marks created off of these scammers. Hopefully you got enriched. And hopefully if you were in it, this walk down memory lane, it gave you not just PTSD flashbacks, but also it helps you understand what went wrong so that you can look for what to avoid in some of these other ones. There's scams all over the place. Certainly not to the degree of Saitama. Certainly not that. No, not even close. Even Safe Moon. I'm going to say the statement even Safemoon wasn't this bad. Because Safemoon for what it was, Safemoon did deliver what it said. It's just that it delivered Buggy. But at least it delivered what it said Saitama eventually did. But the first pass, I'm talking nothing.
[00:42:35] And Safemoon did have its ardent supporters. Safemoon arguably had a cult behind it. I would say safemoon. I never saw situations that they were up there acting like children, arguing with people, random people on Twitter. I never saw such a thing. I never saw. I did see Schiller's on SafeMoon, but not to the to the mark degree. Like we're talking people that financially felt like it was going to be a thing, but not marks like Faltron and others. I didn't see it. Perhaps they were there. I didn't see it. I felt as somebody who was in both projects mind and I did not lose money on either one of them because I didn't stay, because I didn't put a lot in and I took it out.
[00:43:20] I felt Saitama was worse. Just in start to finish, I felt it was worse than Safe Moon. I felt like Safe Moon was a right place, right time situation. Saitama tried to copy that. A lot of them tried to copy that. And they did a piss poor job doing so. And I felt like Saitama had the opportunity to change the game. But you had marks surrounding it. You had scammers who didn't understand.
[00:43:51] You had it right, you had it from the jump. You had it. All you had to do is do what Safemoon did better and cleaner and you'd have been fine. Because people were looking for that alternative. Because by the time people saw Saitama, Safemoon had already hit its peak price wise. We see this now with Salana. We see tons of projects that simply because of the price of the Go token that does nothing right, Simply because of the price of a thing and simply because of availability. And at the time, it's like this other thing. People jump into it because of that and you have the right marketing plan. Nobody debates. Sama had the right marketing plan. Nobody debates that. Sama had the right amount of awareness across the board as an alternative to Shib and Safe Moon. Nobody debates this. What went wrong is this sliver of people who just couldn't. They couldn't let it go. They were greedy as hell, couldn't let it go in their own ass and didn't understand you could have had it. Because if you had let it ride and you had delivered like you said, it would have been even higher. You would have made even more money than what you eventually cleared.
[00:45:03] But we're dealing with marks, ladies and gentlemen. All of them. Not just the shillers like Faltron. I'm talking also the freaking scammers. They're all Marks. Marks for themselves that do not understand.
[00:45:16] You could have. You could have had way more than what you ended up with and you squandered it. And that's really what happened.
[00:45:24] So now 2024, fast forward. I'm done talking about them till I get to the, you know, terrarium whatever whatever. But 2024, there's projects spinning up and it's a different. It's a different playing field, folks. We don't see projects coming with reflections anymore. We don't really see very many rebase tokens anymore. Right. We see tokens talking about burns, but they're not the kind of burns that Saitama was doing.
[00:45:52] We see a default renouncing of the contract. We see a default burning of the liquidity. We see things where they're doing more to try to entice your business.
[00:46:04] I'm here to tell you, very smart marketing people are in front of a lot of the projects that you see spinning up on Pump Fun. They're smart about it. They understand what it takes to get your trust better than these people did. But it's still the same risk. I call it a gamble. You're rolling the dice. It's always this. And that's what it's going to be. I also, by the way, as I close, I'm going to be doing a special episode because I got a lot of questions as part of my coverage things. And I'm going to be doing a special question and answer episode. It won't be live. I'm just going to go down the list of what I've received so far and just answer these questions because some of them are hilarious. But I'm going to be doing that because that'll be my finale for this fiasco. As was. And again, for those curious, I don't believe Willie D or Steve Rocket Crypto or Michael Thompson or even Gabe. I don't think any of them. It's possible they were involved with this. I don't think they were. I think they were going to be set up to be the fall guy and they got out before the shit hit the fan. It's my theory, Gabe, I'm not a hundred percent on, but Michael Thompson, I believe he got out early. Steve got out early for sure. Willie was essentially forced out. I think they dodged a bullet. I don't think that any of them knew really what was going on under the hood. I don't think they were in this secret chat room. I don't think they knew about the shady business. It's possible Steve did know he alluded to something, but he didn't. He wasn't specific. So I don't know for sure.
[00:47:42] Big picture, though, this is a. This, this is a show, just what it was. And if you weren't in it and had heard from it secondhand, like there again, I said, there's people that never. I wouldn't have even expected to be in it. But they were in projects that were similar, you know, Reflections and Burns, that the. And that's where the chatter came in. And they avoided it smartly so. But in all disclosure, again, I was in Safe Moon. I was in Saitama. I got out because I didn't have a lot of money to put in because I wasn't going to pay 100 bucks for gas. That's what it was at the time. I wasn't putting a crap ton in at the time, and I wasn't making the money that I did now. If I put the money I made now, so we're talking October, the money I made now and I were to put something in there, I wouldn't have been a millionaire, but I'd have made a lot of money. At the same time, though, it would have been a gamble and I would have had to take that risk and been okay with it. And I'm not sure that I would have, but I certainly damn sure wasn't going to pay a hundred dollars in gas. So that kept me safe from the level of loss that some people I know took. As far as Safemoon, I bought into the thing and then I sold out of it after I made a little bit because then, you know, I'm like, okay, this is kind of boring. And then I went to any fleck earnhub at the time and did that. And it was. I liked it. But these numb nuts didn't know how to do it right. And then they quit. But they gave everybody their stuff as much as they could back after it crabbed. So I've been largely insulated, fortunate to be smart enough not to fall for the whole strategy like all of them were telling you, like I did on the. On the NAMM episode. They were telling you to hold. I wasn't. I was smart enough to do that because after Para inu, I told myself I wasn't holding anymore because I felt weird. It's like, why. Why would I just sit on it? Should I be making money? And I'm not making money just sitting in hold again.
[00:49:30] It's the Thomas saga. Finally, we are wrapped up with this absolutely.
