Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Out of Cycle Update When Bone Thugs and Harmony sung about the crossroads, this is probably what they meant. CryptoTalk FM My name is Leister, I'm your host.
[00:00:10] Doing a quick supplemental update.
[00:00:13] The Block Dag Investors Channel recently put up an AMA which was internal. It did not have Anthony Turner present at this AMA discussing some of the more recent things that were going on.
[00:00:26] Read Mark Ahmed and I'm going to give a couple of high level points. I'm not going to go broad, I want you to go check it out yourself. But I'll give a couple points in my assessment first.
[00:00:36] Allegedly and he showed screen so I don't have a reason to disbelieve it. But allegedly the Block Dag Investors Channel got a DMCA takedown from Block X which of course if you go back to my old up the update, that's what happened to myself. That's what happened to Scam Alert by Vetra. The so called DMCA takedowns that are coming from BlockX. BlockX of course is aligned with Block Dag in some way, though I cannot prove the direct connection.
[00:01:07] What I didn't state in my original upload and I don't have evidence which is why I didn't state it there, but I will go ahead and state it here as a strong probability.
[00:01:17] It is a strong probability that the Block Decks people, Block X people either have people or they themselves are inside YouTube's group that they have that field off. Copyright strikes specifically. So the organizational structure, some claim is made, that's a submission. When they make that submission, they have to assert, look it up that the claim is legit, that what they're saying is true, that the content truly does violate the violate dmca. They have to assert that there's a form you're filling out where you're saying this, that and the other thing. And I am, you're saying that this is true. Now YouTube, what they should be doing is, is they should actually look at what's submitted. They should look at the content, look at the claim and push back. If it turns out that what they're saying is not true, then they should be taking those people down. They don't do that. Which is why I have the theory that there's some insiderism look it up going on with Block X though I cannot prove it. It's the only logical because the kinds of claims coming through and seeing the screenshot that Reid got, he didn't share the deets behind the specifics of the content, but I suspect it's going to be the same thing. Something like website assets or some garbage. That's bs.
[00:02:45] The irony of the takedown is it was on a video that was a hosted ama. Reed was hosting an AMA that was approved by Anthony Turner because Anthony Turner was there. Anthony Turner is the CEO of Block Dag. The CEO of Block Dag would not have gone on an AMA unless he vetted it. And then why is it that there would be a takedown on a hosted ama? They didn't really show anything other than the miners, really, and a couple little asset things. But it's an ama. You can. You can discuss these things. There's nothing that I saw in that because I watched it. There's nothing I saw in that that violated anything at all.
[00:03:22] This is why I'm saying This is a YouTube thing. YouTube plays those games. They. They are ultimately complicit in what's happening. But because it's always Block X and because they're allowed to do those kinds of things, I have reason to believe that there are insiders inside of that org that I Talked about in YouTube that are able to fill it.
[00:03:46] What should happen is that the first step is basically a notification. Okay? There's a warning.
[00:03:53] We have reason to believe that there's some sort of a breach copyright. That should be step one.
[00:03:58] They say, okay, you give a chance to appeal it, you say it's not there, and then nothing really happens. But these are leaping straight to copyright strike, which is a takedown, and then it forces the legal process.
[00:04:11] In my case, I got two of them. Both of them were bullshit. I have it on writing from Google themselves that one of them was bullshit. The other one, they reviewed it and then determined that it was bullshit. But the other one, they straight said, no, this is bullshit. Okay, then how could it have gotten to the point of a strike before you made that decision? That means they could not have vetted it before you went there. My point is that what Reid was now getting with this one, which was a vetted AMA from the Block Bag project through Anthony Turter, who's allegedly the CEO, getting such a claim on something where he controls the content because he's the host, he controls that content. There is no such a copyright when you. If he hosted it, which he did, there is no such a thing. So this is what's proving that it's bullshit. The DMCA takedowns are bullshit. And why I was putting out the warning and have been putting out the warning. And I told Mark Hamid, this isn't the game Right now, you guys understand this is not a game.
[00:05:11] All this is a distraction. All this other stuff where you're getting set off butthurt on shit, it doesn't matter because at the end of the day, this isn't the game. They're going to do what they're going to do. Now you understand all the stuff that's now happening, Mark Comet talked about stuff was happening to WhatsApp and other tools they have. Stuff was happening to Telescam, stuff was happening to Reddit. Now this copyright strike, I want you folks to understand you are now seeing the fallout of ignoring my warning. My warning was to tell you and I said it at least six times that I can recall. None of it matters. All your butt hurt didn't matter. It doesn't matter. This is not a game. I said that. You disregarded it. Here's what that fallout is. Because think of this. If you just came on the damn show so that we can have the critical mass voice and lend to it this, you're getting ahead of it before it hits that you might have still got attacked. I don't think so. I think once you see critical mass voices start to farm up before it gets bad, I think now it gets harder for them to do that. That's my theory. I can't prove it, but you had nothing to lose, really. Instead you get offended.
[00:06:25] Here's the fallout you got. It was a distraction.
[00:06:29] You let them win by you getting offended.
[00:06:33] You took your eye off the ball and now instead they see, okay, well shit, we lost against Cryptotalk Radio, founded Crypto Talk fm. We lost against him.
[00:06:42] Of course you're gonna lose. I didn't violate anything. I'm audio only. There is nothing copyright, folks. It was easy. Scam alert.
[00:06:50] Beat the case.
[00:06:52] I. I'm very impressed. Scam alert. Beat the case.
[00:06:56] Not because he violated anything, but because there were depictions of Turner etc that I was concerned that they might be able to play some tricky on him. Beat the case.
[00:07:06] Now we got two Beating the case.
[00:07:08] I'm sure Reed will beat the case. He put docs of letters of things and so I'm sure it'll be the case.
[00:07:15] All I'm saying, and I'm gonna say it and it's not saying it to go, it's saying it because from step one I've been trying to help and instead I got butt hurt feelings and this is why. Butt hurt feelings change nothing. They fix nothing. They solve nothing. You've got to understand, this is not a game.
[00:07:37] We can have fun beating the case we can have fun beating.
[00:07:42] We can have fun with that. I'm not suggesting we don't. I'm saying this all is not a game. Millions of dollars are at stake of people's money. Hard earned money, as Reed attested to in this ama. That was good. He attested to it. A lot of people put money in this, so there's a lot at stake. That's why I say it's not a game.
[00:08:03] Feelings don't matter in that spectrum. There's one key critical mass. You have to be against what's happening en masse. You have to be together, unified. Regardless of how you feel about any person, place, thing, creed, color, him or her, it doesn't matter.
[00:08:22] Because the bottom line is it was all jacked up from scratch.
[00:08:26] So to read, I'm, let's say, 95% sure you'll beat the case. Okay. We're cheering you on. I'm sure. Scam alerts, cheering you on. Binance stuff got attacked with a privacy takedown.
[00:08:38] We're all cheering you on because we know it's a bullshit DMCA takedown. I watched it. You didn't violate any damn copyright. We know that.
[00:08:46] So I'm cheering you on.
[00:08:50] Second enlist, he. Reid went. He was talking about all the different voices now. Unified. He was talking about how we need to do that. Yes.
[00:08:59] He gave a shout out to the show. Thank you. Yes, I appreciate that.
[00:09:04] Yes. And he talked about how some of the community apparently were attacking black DAG investors.
[00:09:11] All I said was, which, unfortunately, Mark Comet said I wasn't telling the truth, but now we understand that. That, yes, Leister was telling the truth. That, yes, you had people in the community who were frustrated. That's all I said. That's the truth. You just admitted that's the truth. I was simply calling it out because while those people are there, their frustrations are valid and legit. Your response to say there's a certain level to that. Right. If it turns into an attack, you got to do it. You got to cut it off, because it can't be an attack. You got to come respectful. Of course I 100% agree.
[00:09:47] Unfortunately, Chanel claim that, okay, he's just mutant voices over there at crypto talk radio. No, that's not true. If you come as an attack, you. You lose the right to talk to machine. That's moderation. You guys do it just like I do it. Yes. This is how this all works. The reason I'm kind of, let's say, enlightened now, as from this AMA vs others is because things you're saying from. Like I'm a time traveler. The things you're saying here are stuff I talked about ages ago.
[00:10:21] But you weren't. You weren't in the right time zone yet. It didn't click yet because you hadn't felt it yet because they didn't come after you yet because you didn't dig yet.
[00:10:31] So because it hadn't happened yet, it didn't resonate yet. And so then you got distracted. Okay, remember redid the thing with the nonsense rap business and the book business. That was a distraction and et al.
[00:10:48] Look it up.
[00:10:49] They won.
[00:10:51] They got you to be distracted. They got you to be in your feelings. They got you to be. Oh, let's just focus there. Let's not listen to the criticality that Ler's trying to share here and try to work together with him and with Mark Comed instead of flacking off when he. When Ler invites me to the show, let me take that as an opportunity to start creating a unified voice because the shit he's saying is true.
[00:11:15] Instead of the focus of unify message which is what I've offered you guys both attacked because that's what they wanted you to do. That's what BlockX wanted you to do. Then the moment you start trying to create a unified voice, what happens? Attacks on you.
[00:11:34] Do you understand now how the game works? Do you understand why I said it really isn't a game?
[00:11:41] That's why I'm a little giddy because it's like geez it. Everything is so predictable with these people. Block X and, and everything else. They're so predictable. It's easy. You can, you can see it a mile away. My disappointment only was ever YouTube but I already knew what to expect from them.
[00:11:58] That's. That's, that's how they work. That's how they always work. That's why I told Mark Comet I don't give a about YouTube. Who cares?
[00:12:05] Whatever I did say and recorded is all over the interwebs because that's how I do it. YouTube is one distro source. I believe I'm on 30 some odd platforms. It's all over the place. Sometimes I'm the only search hit. That was my goal because I don't let this kind of stuff get in the way of the message. The message for me has not changed folks. And I'm. It may not sound like it but I'm trying to resonate with these people.
[00:12:32] Reid has impressed me as of recent he hasn't. He's he even said in this one, he said no, he's kind of changed mentality. I I'm giving read all kudos. It may not sound like it, but I'm trying to get you guys to all resonate with what's happened because it's gone. Just by the script that I've laid out over the past couple of months.
[00:12:52] Both of them, Mark Common and Reid at one point came with basic nonsense and ad hominem attacks at a point, especially Mark Comet. But Reed did a point with the book and the rap and all that stuff.
[00:13:05] That was a Chewbacca.
[00:13:07] He was being influenced, which is what I said.
[00:13:11] He was being distracted, which is what I said.
[00:13:15] To focus instead on the feelings and to. And what they were trying to do is create the wedge. They were trying to get him mostly to not unify, to be their proxy, to be that avatar, which is what people think that Anthony Turner is.
[00:13:33] They were trying to position Reid to be that actual voice positive. And as long as you say shit, good, we'll leave you alone. The moment you're open and public with critical now we're going to start attacking. I warned that that was going to happen. I said it. But I also said, what do you fucking have to lose?
[00:13:52] You don't have anything to lose. Especially because as you used in your attack, yes, you have the voice of the investor community greater than I do. I'm not in it. I'm waiting on the next 30 and that's about it. And then I'm doing basic analysis. You guys have money in it. Josh Case Sober buzz podcast, I believe it is. Shout out to Josh Case. You guys have money in it. You guys have a stake in it. You guys have an active interest.
[00:14:16] And I said repeatedly, you've got to put it out publicly. You've got to put critical mass and stop worrying, stop getting your feelings about things and open this up.
[00:14:26] I challenge anybody and everybody to go back to each and every one of my coverages, including the one that be a p. T. Block dag. He did an ad hominem attack at a point and now he's dead silent. Hadn't been back since. I just want people to come back. Give my credit, because if you go back and listen to what I said, you'll see that I'm consistent in the criticality and what it takes to get back on track. And I stayed on that message the moment people come, like Marx, which is, you guys are. You guys are duped. You're focused on the wrong shit. That doesn't matter. And it's going to come back on you like a ton of bricks. This is where we are.
[00:15:06] I'm giving Reed credit because of that awareness now. I'm giving Reed credit because he has shifted. I'm giving Reed credit because he does now understand that he's got to do that. He's got to do that. He's got to. I don't want to say fight, but he's got to be vocal, publicly vocal, outright, open spoken. He's got to.
[00:15:28] Everybody's got to, because it's the only way to beat them.
[00:15:32] And I want everybody who hears me, however limited, to understand why this works.
[00:15:39] Critical mass cannot be defeated.
[00:15:42] Your stovepipe approach won't work. You've got to hit critical mass. You've got to have a critical message en masse and focus on what matters, which is, at the end of the day, there's an influence hitting the damn project, and it has been there like a cloud over top of it for who knows how long. Really, Honestly, it's not gone. I said, I don't know that he's truly out of the shit. I don't know that anything's really changed. I don't know that Turner. Turner himself said he's not taken over yet, so you're not out of the woods. So all the shit they said and the shit they're saying now is still open game. Which is why I said on the Turner video, you've got to hold him accountable, hold him to his messaging. Do not start rah rah because he did a video. It doesn't matter if digital is still involved. None of it matters. None of it matters. Getting offended doesn't matter. Getting angry at individual people outside of Blockedag doesn't. It doesn't matter. It's all a distraction. You've got to have a unified critical mass voice. If you don't do it, you're not going to win this.
[00:16:49] And I'm going to say it. And I. I'm going to leave my audio all over the web so that people can hold me accountable if I'm wrong. That's how I work. Okay? I said in an earlier update, it is highly unlikely that you're going to smell anything close to $400 million.
[00:17:06] Highly unlikely. Because whatever org it is that had custody of the funds wants their slice. And I suspect that slice was significant block. DAG doesn't need a significant amount of money to do a blockchain. They don't. I've seen where $1 million can get you a pretty damn good Blockchain. It's happened countless times.
[00:17:27] They do need some money for things like miners, right? They do need money for things like development, paid development staff. They do need money for proper marketing as Josh Case called out. They do need money for certain of these things. They've never needed nine figures.
[00:17:46] They've never needed it it, it. No, it's unthinkable. The reason that they went after a nine figure high target is because whatever org was in front of it wanted to get their slice. That's what we must understand if that figure is out of the way, which allegedly, according to Reid there's paperwork on in progress to try to make that happen.
[00:18:10] I said hold me accountable and test me on what I say.
[00:18:14] I said you're not going to smell anywhere close to $400 million.
[00:18:20] Now does that kill the project?
[00:18:22] No, it doesn't but it's going to kill sentiment.
[00:18:26] It doesn't kill the project but it will kill sentiment. Assuming that everything is successful, Reed is confident that Turner is trying to decouple from if it is W pro. Reed is confident that Turner's not in Kyzylo's pockets. Well, I'm paraphrasing what they said so let's take it on face that Turner is trying to do the right thing. We still have to ask the question Turner, does he even have the competency to pull this off? I'm talking as a leader.
[00:18:52] The whole Ethereum, Cardano people coming in, we don't know who they are.
[00:18:56] We have to ask the question is that real or is that smoke? I suspect that there's going to be somebody coming from somewhere because initially there was talk about somebody from Cardano being as part of the project and then it fell out. So it's possible that there is something there? I don't know. I'm saying that there's possibility. Let's say that they do have somebody from Ethereum Cardano.
[00:19:18] You're still talking technical people. You're still talking people that are on the technology side. There's never really been a question on the technology side. Barring the speeds of something the question has always been on the business side a block that. So assuming they get some Ethereum and Cardano people in the mix. Remember the Ethereum financial side of that deal largely came after way after you're talking eight years later.
[00:19:45] It didn't come up front, it took. So if you as an investor are cool with the idea. Okay, well we, we already spent two years on this up to this point and now we're going to spend Another eight years, so be it. But will the vast majority of investors feel that same way? I don't think so.
[00:20:02] What they need are business people. You're talking people that have had a background in internal audit. You're talking people that have background in finance. You're talking people that have background in security. You're talking people that are good at oversight. You're talking people that understand project, because that's also lacking. I know they have a project manager, Marius, I believe his name. But I'm talking overall project, not just technical project, overall project, launch strategy, launch planning, exchange, outreach, you know, project.
[00:20:34] Not just technical. Everything I hear is technical. I don't think we've ever had a concern on the technical side. From what we heard and seen, seen thus far, it's always been the business side. That means the risk is still there.
[00:20:48] And I said, I'm sure they'll launch something, I just don't know what the fuck it is.
[00:20:53] Because there's been a lack of vision, frankly, marketing be damned. There's been a lack of vision.
[00:21:01] What really will that be?
[00:21:04] Other than the marketing? What will. What problem are you going to really solve? Because we know it's not speed.
[00:21:11] They talked about decentralization.
[00:21:13] Decentralization has already had problems solved. Can you solve it better? No, because you're still on central footprints. Because you have to be, because that's the way crypto works. So you can't solve, really, decentralization, you're not going to do that. You're not really going to solve privacy as a concern, because even Monero with the 51% attack, couldn't overcome it. It's kind of the peak of the business.
[00:21:35] You're not going to solve banking, because even, you know, Ripple, xrp, it struggled to get to that point. And we have now acknowledged that Bitcoin is not really a sufficient medium for that. I'm putting it out as a question. I'm not trying to tell you. I'm putting it out as a question from a risk perspective. You have to ask, what is it that block DAG is planning or can do is capable of doing better than other projects based on what you've seen?
[00:22:03] Can you come with one answer where it's even remotely seeming to be capable of solving this problem that others have failed to solve?
[00:22:15] Because the launch is the easy part, sustainability is the hard part.
[00:22:21] And that's going to take time. It's not going to be quick, it's not an easy answer. I'm not saying I have an answer. I'm saying that, from what I saw, there's nothing that Block Dag solves that others cannot or have not done. Even Pulsechain as garbage, as I think Pulsechain is.
[00:22:39] It launched. It's a thing.
[00:22:41] It's. It's running. It's got traffic.
[00:22:45] It wasn't. It didn't overcome any of the other competitors out there. It never was going to. So if block tag, let's say, goes the same route and it's not able to overcome or solve any other problem, that means it's got to have something else that keeps it, makes it and keeps it successful.
[00:23:03] And what is that? That's not been answered. I don't believe Turner has the vision to solve that question. It cannot just be Blockchain. That's. That's too easy. It's not going to work. We've seen that countless times.
[00:23:19] So my call to action to anybody listening, number one, understand Reid getting attacked with a. Literally a DMCA takedown. Another BS takedown just like myself. And scam alert should tell you the only reason that happened is because he now has been increasingly verbally publicly critical of what's going on. That's the only time and reason that this kind of thing happened. Which means that's always been the right answer. By his own acknowledgment.
[00:23:52] Now that he got eyes, it means you're doing the right thing. That's correct. It took being public, which is what I told you.
[00:23:59] You had nothing to lose.
[00:24:01] They taped down the video. It's still whack a mole. Because if you have critical mass, multiple of us unified with the same message, it doesn't matter. They can't beat all of it.
[00:24:11] If you're just one in a vacuum, you're one in a vacuum. And then. And then a valuable AMA is lost. Even if only for two weeks.
[00:24:20] That two weeks, that messaging is critical. You still have access to the video.
[00:24:26] Now comes level two of the call to action. Understand when Mark Hamed refused to come on the show, if he had not refused to come on the show and he had accepted coming on the show and being recorded, you now can communicate that same message on another platform.
[00:24:44] Critical mass, you are unifying and you're spreading the message on multiple platforms. Him refusing to do so and then getting butthurt about it and doing a fake privacy takedown on YouTube over it was a distraction.
[00:24:58] He played into Block X's hands. Markham in this one said, I paraphrase, he doesn't agree with Binance stuff.
[00:25:07] In closing, let's talk about Binance stuff. What has Binance Stuff said? He said that Turner's lied multiple times. Are we suggesting that Markhama disagrees with that statement even though it's on record?
[00:25:18] Binance Stuff has said that Granquillos is most likely involved in controlling the funds. Are we suggesting that Markamen doesn't believe that Binance Stuff has said with the miners and the. And the countdowns and the clocks and the bonuses and everything that it's all been misrepresented? The overselling. Everything's been misrepresented to where there's no confidence, essentially. Are we suggesting Mark Comet doesn't agree with that?
[00:25:43] Mark Come is just saying shit, ok? He's just saying shit because he's still in his feelings.
[00:25:49] He's still in his feelings. He doesn't get it. Binance Stuff has not said anything that is factually wrong.
[00:25:55] He's not. He said it straight because he's trying to communicate the same shit that Scam Alert is trying to communicate that I'm trying to communicate that Zach XBT eventually started communicating and there's another gentleman. I'm going to track him down. He hasn't recorded recently, but he was also doing it.
[00:26:11] Binance Stuff is one of those. And Binance stuff's done more than the rest of us put together.
[00:26:15] He's one of those that's been communicating these red flags since Jump.
[00:26:19] So when Mark Comet says he doesn't agree with Binance Stuff, are you suggesting that you think that Guran Kishlo is not involved? That you think that Turner's been telling the truth? Do you hear yourself? He doesn't believe that shit. He's in. His feelings he can't separate because he doesn't understand that. No, dude, you're still in that matrix. You're still plugged the fuck in. And you're going to keep getting attacked by that same group, whoever the fuck it is, you're going to keep getting attacked because you're playing right into their hands.
[00:26:48] At some point you're going to need to come back down to earth and understand. Get out of your feelings and understand this shit's really happening. And then it's not a game.
[00:26:58] The attack is real.
[00:26:59] The cloud is real. It's not gone. It's not close to gone. The progress you think has been made has not been made. It has been stated. You've not seen evidence of it. And until you see evidence of it, you need to get out of your feelings.
[00:27:13] Once we're out of all that shit, you can look back and reflect and understand how silly you sound, saying you don't agree with Binance stuff. Who's telling you straight up that you most likely have a scammer overseeing your shit? Because it's clear and obvious.
[00:27:29] Turner, on the call, on the one taken down, said it was conjecture that W Pro is involved. It's conjecture that Kijiros is involved, so he's playing defense. If. If Turner did not want what happened in terms like the takedown, copyright takedown, we know that communication between them could not have happened, and that if it did happen, Turner has no power over them.
[00:27:55] What can that mean? It means they're still in charge. It means they're still running the game.
[00:28:01] I want everybody listening to me to understand how easy this all is. It is very easy. When you get in your feelings about shit. Nothing changes.
[00:28:12] All that matters, in order to affect change, is to be critical and mass. You've got to have the unified, critical message.
[00:28:21] You've got to have it uniform. You cannot be afraid, like Maret is, of going on other platforms to echo the same message so that the message is coming from multiple fronts.
[00:28:34] I would recommend anybody who doesn't understand why this works pick up a copy because it's free of Sun Tzu's Art of War.
[00:28:43] Because clearly people don't read books anymore. I understand that. I'm encouraging you to read at least that one, because it's going to tell you how easy it is to go to war, especially when you are at a disadvantage. We're talking.
[00:28:55] Because if it's true that they are inside YouTube like I think they are, that means you're at a disadvantage. You're at a tactical disadvantage because you have an LLC.
[00:29:05] It doesn't negate that disadvantage. The disadvantage is YouTube doesn't give a shit that you're an LLC. So they can. They can keep doing it. They could do it all over the place. And Reid has much more content that I would argue is. I don't want to say fair game, but is vulnerable for bullshit takedowns. So I'm going to implore at least Mark Hamid.
[00:29:28] Get out of your feelings.
[00:29:30] Listen to what I'm telling you.
[00:29:32] Your message in this AMA was good.
[00:29:36] I'm putting you over for it.
[00:29:38] But you need to understand why it exposed at least you.
[00:29:43] Because all you had to do was come on another platform and echo the same message so that it's spread to more places and more people hear it. And it's unified in what it is. And it's not about feelings.
[00:29:57] It's about getting rid of the cloud. Hanging over your head. If you're not motivated to getting rid of the cloud over your head, then at least say so, and you might get a little bit of respect.
